May 11, 2007

Reader comments on Adopting Littermates

Hello!  After I posted on adopting littermates, a reader emailed me the following:

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WHAT IF WE ALREADY DID THAT??  Yeah, what was the breeder thinking to let us adopt 2 females of the same litter...we've had them for 2 years and for the past year we've really been working them differently after contacting a local trainer.  We had him come out to the house since we were having some fights between them in the house and he really helped us see a new path.  We started separating their crates...then the walks, then the feedings and the past few months they've done much better in many areas.  I went back to the daily walk together because walking 4-6 miles a day was getting to be a challenge.  However, after a couple months we saw some issues and so I went back to walking them individually...just alternate days.

Anyways, just curious now what we can do since they are both spayed, and just turned 2 years old.  They have had full medicals and both on thyroid tablets but otherwise in good health.  They are strengthing their obedience to various commands...but no longer lunge on the walks towards cats or squirrels!  They love frisbee which we play several times a day, they get obedience training 2 days a week alone, they walk 2 days a week at least 2 miles with a backpack holding about 8# and they are crated at night for bedtime, but each get alternate hours of time in the house with us during the evenings.
The only real problem we see is their nervousness with people & dogs and since they are MUCH better when alone...we try to do more and more on our walks.  I guess I'm just wondering about advice from someone else to be sure we're on the right track.  Our trainer is suggesting classes now to improve their work with other people & dogs...but we hesitate since they are doing so well.  He got us focused on the Pack idea as well and since 1 dog is the dominant one we usually have to take our time with the submissive one to bring her around...but she's really been coming out of her shell so we are concerned taking her to a class might do more harm than good.
Any input?
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Here is my response to her:
It sounds like you're doing many of the right things.  I would take the submissive one to a class, but make sure it's with a really good instructor and is set up well.  Or, arrange for some play dates off property with other dogs and without her littermate.  You might also do something that would be confidence building with her like agility (using only positive methods).
I would be VERY leary of applying pack principles - this tends to be an outdated approach and most of the time, it just mucks things up.  You might look at Dr. Patricia McConnell's Feeling Outnumber DVD and booklet (www.dogsbestfriendtraining.com) - it is an absolutely marvelous way of living with multiple dogs and can really work wonders.
The last thing I would suggest is finding a friend or relative who might take your more submissive dog for you for a weekend and then evaluate any change in her.  Many times, the change in demeanor is rather instantaneous when the dogs are split up so you can have a friend take her to see what the difference in personality might be if she were in a different home.  This lets you do some truly critical thinking about whether you might rehome her for her well-being.  I know rehoming would be extremely difficult, but if you're lucky enough to find her a home with a relative or someone you know so you can still be involved with her, you might decide it's best overall. 

April 27, 2007

Adopting littermates?

I just got a call that I love to receive!  Someone calling to ask a professional dog trainer their opinion on adopting littermates BEFORE they bring home two puppies from the same litter.  My advice?  Don't do it! 

When I first started training dogs full time, another dog trainer warned me about problems between littermates that grow up together.  She said that she never recommends it because it can lead to problem behaviors down the road, including aggression between the dogs.  I thought she must be overreacting a bit or exaggerating how bad the problem could be, but I went and researched it a bit anyway.  I actually found a number of dog breeders that will not sell two littermates to the same family.  I was a little more convinced, but still wasn't sure I would advise people against adopting two siblings from the same litter.

Then, I saw it myself.  I had a client that had a male and female that were from the same litter.  It was one of the saddest things to watch them grow up together.  The male was so completely dependent on the female.  He never quite blossomed himself and he also suffocated her much of the time.  I don't know if they experienced aggression issues down the road because they've since moved away, but what I saw was enough to make me think that it was not a good idea.  I've also seen parent/child pairings that resulted in aggression problems when the puppy matured into an adult dog. 

Here is a little of what I have since discovered on the issue of littermates growing up together:

1 - It doesn't have to be littermates.  The same problems may occur when you raise either a mother and child or father and child pair.  It also appears that it may be problematic when you raise two unrelated puppies of the same age together.  In general, we recommend waiting a minimum of 6 months to a year AND getting your first dog's manners under control before you bring another dog home. 

2 - Raising two littermates can lead to, for lack of a technical term, "failure to blossom" in one of the dogs.  In fact, according to Steven Lindsay (author of Handbook of Applied Dog Behavior and Training), one Guide Dog organization reported problems when a mother and child pair was fostered together and when littermates are fostered together.  Quoting a representative of the organization: "I cannot remember a single dog who was raised with her mother to adulthood who could be successfully trained for a Guide Dog.  Where two litter mates are raised together in the same home we have had the same results. . . . one becomes a successful candidate for Guide Dog work and one fails, even if their aptitude tests were equal." (Lindsay, 2000, p. 50).

3 - Two puppies raised together don't often have a chance to bond to family members because they're so busy bonding with one another.  This can lead to trouble with training and behavior, and over-bonding with one another may lead to difficulties with being left alone or separated for even short periods as adults.

4 - Many trainers recommend the following steps if you have littermates:

      - Take time with each dog individually EVERY day for the first 6 or so months you have them so that they can bond with you instead of just bonding to one another.  Go out for separate walks (you'll need to do this to teach nice leash manners anyway), have some one-on-one training sessions with each of them, and attend a group puppy class with each one (separate classes!). 

     - Separate the dogs when you are gone during the day (for the first 6 months).  You can do this by crating them in different rooms of the house or by babygating them into separate rooms (in a way that doesn't allow them to interact through the gate).  I know, you're thinking this is foolish because I want my dogs to play with each other and keep each other company during the day.  They will do that.  Someday.  Just not during their formative months.  Let them each develop an individual personality first and then allow them to be together during the day. 

Now that I've said all that, I want to be frank.  NONE of what I've just said has been proven in a verifiable, repeatable study.  I have yet to see a study that confirms the claims I've just made (I hope that someday we'll have more information on this, but as of yet, I don't think any studies exist).  For those of you that know me or read my blog regularly, you'll know that I don't like to pass on information that is simply based on anecdote.  There is far too much mythology and plain-old-junk out there in dog training to justify throwing ideas out willy nilly.  However, I've seen enough evidence of problems with raising two littermates or a parent/child pair that I'm willing to warn dog owners of the problems and recommend that they not adopt a pairing like this.  At the very least, I make recommendations about precautions they can take, always with the caveat that the problem hasn't been studied enough to be verifiable. 

I just attended the annual conference of the International Association of Animal Behavior Consultants and I asked a Veterinary Behaviorist that was at the conference what she thought of the problems of raising littermates together.  She confirmed my suspicion that there haven't been any studies on the topic, but, she has also seen enough problems to cause her to recommend that clients not adopt a littermate or parent/puppy pair.  So, take it for what it is worth - just anecdotal evidence - but I for one won't adopt any littermates any time soon!

Cara, Austin Dog Training, Behavior, and Dog Daycare

April 12, 2007

Do you want your own Firehouse Dog?

Jack_1 Sadly, trends in the popularity of different dog breeds are often related to recent Hollywood releases.  The popularity of Dalmatians, for example, sky-rocketed after the release of 101 Dalmatians.  Unfortunately, choosing a dog based on what you see in a Hollywood production doesn't usually make for a happy ending.  You need to choose your dog based on your lifestyle and personality, the exercise and mental stimulation requirements of the breed, whether you'll be able to afford the care involved for a particular breed, and much more.   

A new movie, Firehouse Dog features an Irish Terrier, a breed that, although stunningly beautiful and filled with personality and character, is, ultimately, not the breed for your average Joe.  We featured a write up on the Irish Terrier several months back because we have one in our Austin Dog Daycare.  Jack has also gone through our dog training program and his owners have invested quite a bit of hard work, time, money, and energy into his training and behavior.  Because of that, he is a well-mannered dog (well, most of the time!) and is great fun to train or watch at play.  He remains, however, a high-energy, very intense dog who needs a great deal of exercise and mental stimulation EACH AND EVERY DAY (he comes to our Austin dog daycare three days a week).

You can read our Breed Profile on the Irish Terrier here for more information so that you can be absolutely sure this is the breed for you before you go out an adopt.  Also, be sure that you adopt from a responsible breeder - Jack was bred by Redloch Kennel and his owners always have wonderful things to say about his breeder.  I've also been quite impressed by Jack's breeder's commitment to his dogs even after they leave his care (Jack was involved in an accident after being adopted by his first owners and his breeder took him home and cared for him through a very difficult recovery before bringing him to his current owners). 

Cara, Austin Dog Trainer

August 05, 2006

More information on Pit Bull Breeds

I'm a big advocate of researching a breed before you adopt a dog.  Here is some more information on the infamous "Pit Bull" in a recent LA Times Article, Pit Bulls Out of the Doghouse

By the way, did you know that there is no breed called a "Pit Bull"?  This term actually describes a number of breeds, including the Pit Bull Terrier, Staffordshire Terrier, American Staffordshire Terrier, and the Bull Terrier?  How then, you might ask, can we accurately compare statistics (such as bite statistics) between the "Pit Bulls" and another breed like the German Shepherd or Golden Retriever?  We can't!  If you lump four or more breeds together and compare them to the statistics of a single breed, you'll get a warped statistical comparison!

Want more info on this issue?  Check out The Real Pit Bull or About the American Pit Bull.  I haven't read through every bit of these websites so I can't vouch for them, but what I did read, I liked.  As with any breed, remember that each individual dog is different.  Do you r research and then get help from a qualified breeder, trainer, or adoption counselor to help find the right individual dog for you!

Cara, Austin Dog Trainer

July 26, 2006

Breed Profile: Irish Terriers

Jack_1 I'm sure that if my client, Jack (the stunning Irish Terrier pictured in these photos), could read, I would have gotten an earful after yesterday's post about Paws to Consider.  You see, one breed that was left out of that book is the Irish Terrier.  I'm fairly certain Jack would have a thing or two to say about that!  So, here is our own breed profile of the Irish Terrier, complete with some beautiful photographs taken by Casey Woods.

One of the oldest terrier breeds, the Irish Terrier hails from, well, Ireland, of course!  This medium-sized breed is terrier through and through.  It is playful, inquisitive, bold, independent, and always ready for a bit of action and adventure.  It will be a vocal watchdog and is loyal and protective of family members.  Often described as a "daredevil", this breed has endless amounts of courage.  Socialization and training at an early age are crucial with this breed. 

You must also make sure that it gets enough daily exercise (walks AND a good romp in a fenced in area) and mental stimulation to prevent problem behaviors.  When your Irish Terrier is getting sufficient exercise and mental stimulation, it will generally be well-mannered and even dignified indoors.  If it doesn't get the right amount of exercise and mental stimulation, well . . . watch out!Jack_2  Jack_3

Your Irish Terrier will require combing one to two times a week and scissoring or stripping two to four times a year.  You won't see much shedding, though!

Potential problems to be aware of include aggression towards other dogs and small animals.  Don't forget, this breed was bred to hunt fox and small vermin!  Some of the breed descriptions I looked at when researching this breed described it as being a good playmate for an active child; however, I would caution you to be extremely careful in choosing this breed if you have an infant or toddler in the house.  Their high chase instinct may be dangerous for a small child who may look like prey all too often!

Barking and digging may also be a problem.  This breed has the capacity to bring a tremendous amount of joy to your life if you have the time to dedicate to it.  It is not, however, a good choice for inexperienced dog owners or for busy households that won't have time for proper socialization and training.  Jack_4

Thank you, Jack, for being such a photogenic model!

Cara, Austin Dog Trainer

July 25, 2006

Choosing The Right Breed of Dog For You

Choosing the right breed of dog to suit your lifestyle is crucial to a successful and happy relationship down the road.  Several breeds of dogs are not appropriate for first dog owners.  Others will likely have behavioral problems if they are paired in a home where they don't get enough exercise. 

One of my favorite resources for selecting the right breed is a book called Paws to Consider by Brian Kilcommons and Sarah Wilson.  When our Austin Dog Training and Behavior Center opens in September, a copy of this book will be available at all times in our lobby to help clients and perspective clients make a wise choice when looking for a new pet.   What I like best about this book is the way that it categorizes dogs into different sections.  For example, there are 9 to 5 dogs, which describes breeds that generally do well when owners are not home all day with them.  There are The Family Dogs, The City Dogs, and The Not For Everyone breeds.  It also cross references when one breed may be suitable in several different categories.

I will caution you with two things: First, not all breeds will be covered in this book.  Second, this book should be a STARTING POINT to help you locate a few breeds to research further.  You should DEFINITELY research the breeds that you find in this book further to be absolutely certain the breed is right for you. 

Happy Choosing!

Cara, Austin Dog Trainer

July 06, 2006

Those Puppy Eyes!

Domesticated_0626 Dreaming of bringing home that beautiful new puppy?  One look and you fell for those soulful eyes?  You can't imagine saying no to that pleading face?

I'm begging you, please do!  At least long enough to go do your breed research and make sure that this particular puppy is more than just a pretty face.  Make sure he's the right puppy for you, your family, and your lifestyle.  Look at energy level and exercise, grooming needs, any special health problems, and how the breed does with children and other pets or dogs.

Also, be sure you're getting the right age dog.  When selecting between a dog or puppy, ask yourself whether you can do a potty break every 2-3 hours for a 2 month old puppy (day and night!).  Do you have time to introduce the puppy to new sights and sounds every day?  Adult dogs take time as well - they'll need some training and exercise, for example - but they can wait for 8 hours to go to the bathroom.  You'll be able to sleep through the night if you adopt an adult dog!

The bottom line is, think before you leap - you and the dog will be better off in the long run if the match is well-thought out. 

Cara, Austin Dog Trainer

      

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July 03, 2006

Are two dogs better than one?

Domesticated_0960 Considering getting another dog, but you're not sure if it's the right move for you?  I wasn't either, but now, when I see one dog living in a home, it somehow seems out-of-sorts to me.  Like there just should be at least two. 

That's, of course, just me being silly.  Whether to have one or two or even seven dogs is a personal choice and, in fact, rescue groups frequently have dogs who will require a single dog home due to a behavioral problem.  But, if you do decide to have more than one dog, here are some guidelines for selecting the second half of your pair:

First, if possible, try to avoid falling for a dog who needs a home and making your selection that way rather than selecting the dog that is right for you and your existing dog.  Although I love both of my dogs and wouldn't give either up for all the world, it saddens me that they don't seem to enjoy one another's company.  They never play with each other and, in fact, had aggression issues when I first brought my second one, Buddy, home. 

If you can, let your first dog have a say in the process.  For example, decide on a few breeds (or mixes of breeds) that would fit your lifestyle (considering temperament, energy and exercise needs, grooming needs, size, and so-on) and then contact rescue groups for those breeds.  Describe your current dog's personality and see if they have some dogs that may be suitable matches.  Then, ask if you can arrange a play date or casual meeting so that you can see if they get along.  Chance and Buddy were very neutral toward each other - they sniffed and then just went their separate ways.  I would suggest looking for signs that your dog and the candidate dog are actually interested in each other and are enjoying playing or running together. 

There are also some general rules about selecting good matches.  Try not to have the dogs be too similar - Chance and Buddy are both males, they are only a year apart in age, they are virtually the same size, they are the same breed, etc.  Generally, pairs do better if they are a few years apart in age, the opposite sex, and not related by blood.  Of course, there are exceptions to this, so, as I said, let the dogs tell you whether it's the right fit or not. 

Lastly, many dog trainers will help you assess the match or select a breed for free.  Take advantage of that resource - selecting the right dog can make a world of difference in your happiness and theirs, as well!

Cara, Austin Dog Trainer

March 25, 2006

Selecting a Breed Based on Temperament

The American Temperament Test Society puts out stats of the pass/fail rate for different breeds of dogs each year (including miced breeds). You can find the pass fail stats from dog breed temperament Tests here

This can just be interesting reading or it can help when selecting a breed to adopt. A couple of things to keep in mind - look to see how many tests were done on a particular breed - if the breed has a 100% pass rate but they only tested 4 dogs (who may have come from one litter or one owner, etc.) that isn't going to really tell you much. Also, read the description of the test that is done - it only tests for reactions to people and things, not any dog-dog related testing. That's not necessarily a bad thing - it just means these results won't tell you much about how a breed gets along with dogs and other animals.

Cara, Buddy's Chance, LLC Austin Dog Trainer, Pet Sitting